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So Long, Rodgers, Plus a Football History Deep Dive With Cousin Sal and Chuck Klosterman

The Bill Simmons Podcast · January 13, 2026

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So Long, Rodgers, Plus a Football History Deep Dive With Cousin Sal and Chuck Klosterman

The Bill Simmons Podcast

The Ringer’s Bill Simmons is joined by Cousin Sal to recap the Texans taking down the Steelers to wrap up the wild-card round before previewing the Texans-Patriots matchup (1:52). Then, Chuck Klosterman joins the pod to talk about his new book, ‘Football,’ and the evolution of humans' relationship to the sport (35:44). Host: Bill Simmons Guests: Cousin Sal and Chuck Klosterman Producers: Chia Hao Tat and Eduardo Ocampo The Ringer is committed to responsible gaming. Please visit⁠⁠⁠ www.rg-help.com⁠⁠⁠ to learn more about the resources and helplines available. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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The Ringer’s Bill Simmons is joined by Cousin Sal to recap the Texans taking down the Steelers to wrap up the wild-card round before previewing the Texans-Patriots matchup (1:52). Then, Chuck Klosterman joins the pod to talk about his new book, ‘Football,’ and the evolution of humans' relationship to the sport (35:44). Host: Bill Simmons Guests: Cousin Sal and Chuck Klosterman Producers: Chia Hao Tat and Eduardo Ocampo The Ringer is committed to responsible gaming. Please visit ⁠⁠⁠ www.rg-help.com ⁠⁠⁠ to learn more about the resources and helplines available. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Published: January 13, 2026
Status: active
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